# Hi, i am there again
Author: soria

Hi,

  
i was there long time ago. I got any mice and must  trying inbreeding, coz i have 3 reversed and everybody are from some linie xD But 1.4. one doe breeded 11 little mice, 1 was weak and died, but others growing...  I was surprised that she didnt have any problems with it, but i am so glad too. I have experience with old mice, like 5-6 month old, that doe have problem sometimes with breeds.  They died and every young mice too... I was stressed everyday xD

  
One time a registered them on show, and one of them won prize for the best eyes and got 91 points from 100. They lost many points becouse they have very light color on body and our standard can dark body like finland standard. I dont know how i do darknes body color when i dont know which genes do white points, but ok...

Any idea how i can do it or try it?

## Comment 1
Author: soria

This is champagne+who know what reverse http://img.kralici.com/mysky/alba/08ced34c9f9410e00258.jpg

How u see, hes darker and have white points... He have splashed parents and com on world as miracle..

And there is english phorum about it [http://www.fancymicebreeders.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9794&hilit=reverse](http://www.fancymicebreeders.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9794&hilit=reverse)

## Comment 2
Author: StillaSinnet

reverse Siamese is aacece, and you have to line breed the darkest of the darkest, if you want them darker. We make the opposite, because we want them bright :)

## Comment 3
Author: soria

ye, but we have some standard as finland and they wanna dark body with bright points. I registered my reverse and one of judge got him II. coz she thinking that it is bad biege/bone, mean unstandard...

## Comment 4
Author: soria

btw i have every 3 mice with some color, nobody is darkest xD

## Comment 5
Author: StillaSinnet

#4 LOL, problems there ;) Breed them and pick out the darkest ![Skrattande](http://mus.ifokus.se/js/lib/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-laughing.gif "Skrattande")

## Comment 6
Author: Grodan

Hiya Soria, welcome back!![Skrattande](http://mus.ifokus.se/js/lib/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-laughing.gif "Skrattande")

## Comment 7
Author: Grodan

Miss you and lenka...

## Comment 8
Author: soria

come to us :P

Btw its normal that i have every litters light without points? Will be it better later as with  siamese or other pointed mice?

## Comment 9
Author: Grodan

#8 Yeah. I think the paleness on nose, paws and tails will show clearer when the animals gets darker with age - Cream tend to get more color in age.

But you work with polygenes. Polygenes that most BE Cream breeders work against as they want the anímals to have same color shade on the whole body.