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Lee
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Males together?

Unfortunately here in Belgium/france, people have taken the habbit to separate every male, so they're fierce and agressive with others… I've got a few males living together but they are mainly alone or with females…

I heard it wasn't the same in Holland, is it in your country? How do you manage with males? How do you do the presentations with young ones? Is it as good as with rats? Because I'd love to gather my males together some time… It's a lot of cages with every one separated…

Grodan
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#1

I can only speak for myself, since I´m one of them who really gone in for the part of being able to have mouse males living together peacefully in a group. I haven´t come to that point when I can introduce mice males as you can do with rat males, but I´m on the way.

Since it´s not in the nature of mouse behavior it takes a little longer time…

It took some time for me to learn how to read the mouse language understand how males work in a group and to quickly see any signs of stress or argue.

Today I have several small groups with 2-6 males. To put a group together I´ve have to consider temperament and character and all time "read" the mice. Best is to put as young males as possible together, about 4-5 weeks of age. And never let a male grow up alone!

Another rule - for me - is to never breed on a dominant male that cannot live in a group with males. So in a litter I choose the male for breeding that is the least dominant and aggressive towards other males. It is also important to do the same with females - not breed on the most dominant and aggressive!


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Grodan
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#2

was it too much to read?

it took some time to write… to translate everything… ha, that´s a new thing for me… it´s fun!


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Lee
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#3

Wel I was waiting for others' experience Glad

Today I put a male (adult) with his sons and 2 males babies of another litter. Let's wait and see :)

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#4

I have two brothers living together, they are 1 year and 7 months old now. I hope there will be a litter from one of them soon.

pepsu
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#5

I have tried to keep males together and succeeded with young males. I have not tried that with older males, can you tell how you put them together is there some particular style or something? Skrattande

Lee
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#6

I still have questions :P

How do you do with them when you want to breed them? Do you keep them apart for a week and then put them together again? Is it not too difficult?

mandymoo
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#7

That´s a little different what I have understand. Some don´t work to put together again other do.

If I´m totaly wrong I think that Grodan has males that she breed with and then put back in the group. But I´ll think she can answer better.

Grodan
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#8

#5 It´s so different. Yes, there is a special style on the males that work together in a group. First of all they have never been in an argue with another male - if they have, they will not tolerate another male… why I don´t know - and they are very calm. They don´t pee a lot, don´t smell as strongly as some males can do and they will not get upset or stressed by smelling another male.

A strange idea of mine is that´s is often longhair males that are calm and not having so much testosterone.

#7 That´s correct. I breed on them and then put them in the male-group again. I always have to consider the special group how the males in that group are working. In some group I can take one male and put him together with a doe for 2-3 weeks and then just put him back in the male group again, without any trouble at all. Some males I have to split up and put everyone with one doe of their own in another cage and after 2-3 weeks put them together in their cage they shared before (it´s important no one lived in this cage and it´s not cleaned under 2-3 weeks since it got the smell of these bucks).


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Lee
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#9

Ok :) I have 2 groups I want to split but I'm afraid I'll have ta part them afterall… I'll try this out so. Tell you after that how it worked…

Yes my tamest group is 4 longhaired and one shorthaired, all brothers… They have never fought once.

Grodan
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#10

I hope they wont argue just because they met girls… Oskyldig


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